tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post2331156827131576741..comments2024-02-20T07:50:13.558+01:00Comments on Chess960 (FRC): A Highbrow Dismissal of Chess960Mark Weekshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10101044127493771263noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post-72889631421836092332013-03-04T00:17:35.199+01:002013-03-04T00:17:35.199+01:00"Discard the 'Random' from Fischer Ra..."Discard the 'Random' from Fischer Random Chess!"<br /><br />This would answer Dvoretsky's sensible concern that "no accumulation" of experience with any one start setup would occur, and thus much lower quality opening play would be all us grandmaster spectators would have available to enjoy in the opening phase during replayed chess960-FRC games.GeneMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17760103001033379456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post-3735251630935162192010-12-18T04:49:27.854+01:002010-12-18T04:49:27.854+01:00Eh Millie
Yeah I try to make argument with Mark bu...Eh Millie<br />Yeah I try to make argument with Mark but it is impossible. I totally agree with him mostly. But we have to spice it up a little :) You very accurately indirectly pointed out my hypocrisy as well thank you! All my arguments about Chess960 are simply my familiar thought world, the thought bubble I live in that I claim as absolute fact that I think bursts all other thought bubbles but does not.<br /><br />Honestly though, "creativity" is an interesting way of thinking about Chess960. Maybe I could stick my head out and to try to summarize creativity as:<br /><br />Creativity = Imagination + Curiosity!<br /><br />If that is true, then certainly Chess960 is creative! Yeah Chess is about winning, but it is also should be about experiencing real curiosity both the players and the spectators. Brave enough to face a sense of unfamiliarity. Run with it and have some fun with it. Loosing is fun too. There is not one Chess960 position that is unplayable. Each and every position has something to offer. <br /><br />Curiosity did not kill the cat. Curiosity saved the cat! Chess960 does not kill Chess. Chess960 saves Chess!<br /><br />Cheers,<br />Best wishes to you and Mark this Christmas!<br />HarryHarryOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15971894954907592580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post-84376173801702217682010-12-15T08:16:03.395+01:002010-12-15T08:16:03.395+01:00I have no idea what Harry's point is.
I will...I have no idea what Harry's point is. <br /><br />I will say I think you artfully pointed out the weaknesses in Dvoretsky's argument while supporting your own, and reading this makes me want to play 960 more often.milliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00931537293180599621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post-61411652230130530182010-12-14T02:34:53.378+01:002010-12-14T02:34:53.378+01:00Mark I cannot agree with this:
"But this can ...Mark I cannot agree with this:<br />"But this can hardly mean that chess960 should be promoted as the designated successor to everyday chess. [...] The problems involved with such an enormous change in the rules should be examined from all sides and tested, with all aspects considered in order to find out whether there are drawbacks that might prove dangerous to the future of chess."<br /><br />The statement is almost completely nonsense. Chess960 will only ever be promoted once it is already proven to be popular. The changes to Chess that Chess960 introduce are completely zero. Chess960 IS chess so where is the change? The only change is to the tradition of chess that the old school hang on to for dear life. But even the tradition of Chess is not thrown aside by Chess960. Chess960 does not alter Chess in any way at all and all the traditions and knowledge still apply one hundred percent.<br /><br />I request that you reconsider your position regarding giving more "weight" to the Chess960 debate to those who are at the elite end of traditional chess. These people are wonderful but they cannot be given any more weight regarding Chess960 discussions than the average patzer chess player. Even Kasparov himself has no extra claim to authority on Chess960 discussions. <br /><br />We in this society just habitually turn to the elites for their opinion. That is all we do. But their opinion has no substance when the discussion moves into unfamiliar territory. Then the discussion falls apart at any serious level. If Chess960 actually changed anything about Chess then there would be something to discuss. But Chess960 is not a variant of Chess it is simple commonsense. Dvoretsky's alternative proposal to solve the problems of Chess is a variant of Chess because it does change the rules of Chess! But Chess960 does not. Why do not the elites see this and a patzer chess player does?<br /><br />The realisation is that ALL of us humans at all levels of academia and "intellect" are limited in the same way to our own psychological world of familiarity. We all live in a bubble and all our thinking is simply a function of our own personal familiarity. When our familiarity is confronted, all of us defend ourselves. The elites just hide their fear of the unfamiliar in more elaborate ways. <br /><br />You are the first person I have met that comes from a traditional Chess background that can see through all the nonsense out there about Chess960.<br /><br />Cheers<br />HarryHarryOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15971894954907592580noreply@blogger.com