tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post3454891567667651709..comments2024-02-20T07:50:13.558+01:00Comments on Chess960 (FRC): Kasparov's Modern ChessMark Weekshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10101044127493771263noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post-58816627462017005792012-07-10T13:45:49.324+02:002012-07-10T13:45:49.324+02:00Morphy you are spot on so no need to be confused. ...Morphy you are spot on so no need to be confused. Chess960 was not invented to deal with draws and I honestly do not think that Bobby Fischer was concerned about draws. If there are less draws in Chess960, this is merely a side effect.<br /><br />I wish Bobby were still alive so that he could explain it for himself.<br /><br />In Chess960 the goal is white to move first and white tries to win using concepts that they learn. Black tries to win using concepts that they have learned. If that is not possible, then black tries to draw. Always both sides try not to loose. <br /><br />It is a test of ideas and imagination.<br /><br />Can I say it any more simply?<br />CheersHarryOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15971894954907592580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post-65625550044548555222012-07-09T20:14:05.806+02:002012-07-09T20:14:05.806+02:00Whose goal is to reduce the draw rate?
I am confu...Whose goal is to reduce the draw rate? <br />I am confused here by GeneM's comment.<br /> Should not the GM's who are drawing against each other decide whether they want to play chess960 or some random middle game position? <br /><br />If I were to organize a tournament with strong GMs. I would suggest playing Fischer Random with colors switched - on the same day one after the day so no possibility of "researching" and to reduce the possible variance due to increased white advantage in some positions. <br /><br /><br /><br />I think the goal is to avoid "opening theory" for its very possible for one GM to work out a novelty over the computer to spring upon an unsuspecting opponent and win even if the opponent is more "naturally gifted"<br /><br />So its not just draws but even decisive games that are not OTB but home prepared. <br />Chess960 elegantly solves this problem. Though technically you can cook up novelties for each of the 960 positions. <br />Another alternative game, is to come up with about a 1000 balanced middle game positions and randomly assign it as a game to be played out. <br />All of this measures the true OTB skill of a player.Morphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02559984368113483447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post-67140576084912168932012-07-06T03:12:41.356+02:002012-07-06T03:12:41.356+02:00Mark's post wrote:
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"I think th...Mark's post wrote:<br />{<br />Nikitin:<br />"I think that it would be interesting to abolish castling or at least make it different"<br />}<br /><br />GeneM says:<br />Give more king destination options to the second player who castles, but only if he castles to the wing opposite from the wing the first player castled to.<br />(The two wings are the a-wing and h-wing.)<br /><br />For opposite wing castling, Black's destination square options for his king are any back rank square that does not move toward the same wing that the first player castled to.<br /><br />For example, after White castles first with Ke1-g1(Rh1-f1), Black can castle Ke8-a8(Ra8-b8). Also valid for Black would be Ke8-e8(Ra8-f8).<br /><br />My goal is to reduce the draw rate.<br />My goal applies equally well to traditional chess1 as it does to any implementation of chess960-FRC.<br /><br />GeneMGeneMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17760103001033379456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post-37705153336745563292012-07-06T03:08:15.663+02:002012-07-06T03:08:15.663+02:00From Mark's blog post:
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The excessiv...From Mark's blog post:<br />{<br />Sosonko:<br />The excessive development of theory significantly reduces the purely playing component of chess -- that for which we so love this ancient game. How to avoid theory?<br />}<br /><br />Sosonko half contradicts himself. First he says that "excessive" opening theory (variation memorization) is the problem; but then he asks how we can entirely "avoid theory".<br />Which is it?<br /><br />I believe the problem is the "excessive" study of the one traditional start back rank setup.<br />'No opening theory' --- that is a nonGoal, despite the fact it was Fischer's intended goal.<br /><br />GeneMGeneMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17760103001033379456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post-8629587821111009592012-07-06T02:44:20.740+02:002012-07-06T02:44:20.740+02:00TO: Vasile Andreica
Your rounds 5 & 6 had the...TO: Vasile Andreica<br /><br />Your rounds 5 & 6 had the largest differences between the win ratio of White/Black.<br />So I checked the 5 & 6 start setups against the stats on ComputerChess.org (link is on Mark.W's blog right-side bar). I am frustrated to find no correlation between the ratios from your tournament and the CC .org stats. Frustrated, but not surprised, as many factors are different and not controlled, and the sample size of 5 & 6 are of course small.<br />For what it's worth, the tournament and website stats are compared below:<br /><br /><br />R5, SP 514 - 3 wins white, no draws, 10 wins black<br />BRNQKBNR<br />27.3% == Draw rate<br />48.9% == White win percent<br /><br /><br />R6, SP 777 - 9 wins white, 1 draw, 3 wins black<br />QRKBBNRN<br />16.1% == Draw rate<br />49.1% == White win percent<br /><br /><br />http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404FRC/opening_report_by_eco.html<br /><br />Thanks,<br />GeneMGeneMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17760103001033379456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post-2558384037708715462012-07-03T03:40:05.751+02:002012-07-03T03:40:05.751+02:00Hope you are enjoy holidays Mark. It is actually a...Hope you are enjoy holidays Mark. It is actually an interesting idea to allow Chess960 to evolve by allowing the players to put alternative pieces down one by one according to Chess960 rules at the start of the game and then play Chess960 from there....<br /><br />I for one would love to try it. The question is where would you start? What piece would you put down first?<br /><br />Suggestion:<br />Toss a coin for who puts the king down first.<br /><br />Then the pieces are placed after the king as:<br />0. King (1st player)<br />1. Queen (2nd player)<br />2. Rook 1 (1st player)<br />3. Rook 2 etc<br />4. Bishop 1<br />5. Bishop 2<br />6. Knight 1<br />7. Knight 2<br /><br />Just one way of doing it. That move order encourages position structure, with the knights down last, because they are most flexible.<br /><br />Point is it is still Chess960! The beauty of the idea is that players can choose how far they want to deviate from what they are familiar with....<br /><br />Bravo! I can see one problem however, you could get angry at your opponent even before the game has started! (Why did you put the queen there you @#$#@!)<br /><br />This is probably why Bobby preferred a random approach because it is more peaceful before the war actually starts, and both players use an adaptive mindset, adapting to whatever is presented over the board when they arrive there.<br /><br />I'm probably in the 2nd camp.<br />CheersHarryOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15971894954907592580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post-87226772089065313962012-07-02T11:09:58.517+02:002012-07-02T11:09:58.517+02:00Stats for the chess960 tournament in Romania
7 ro...Stats for the chess960 tournament in Romania<br /><br />7 rounds, 29 players, Swiss style.<br /><br />No games were written down (too many players, cramped space)<br /><br />R1, SP 756 - 6 wins white, 1 draw, 7 wins black<br />R2, SP 714 - 7 wins white, no draws, 7 wins black<br />R3, SP 229 - 6 wins white, 2 draws, 5 wins black<br />R4, SP 12 - 3 wins white, 1 draw, 9 wins black<br />R5, SP 514 - 3 wins white, no draws, 10 wins black<br />R6, SP 777 - 9 wins white,, 1 draw, 3 wins black<br />R7, SP 100 - 6 wins white, 3 draws, 4 wins blackVasile Andreicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10220168923304531209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6011690536420808420.post-12686376090335818422012-07-02T10:32:44.140+02:002012-07-02T10:32:44.140+02:00The chess960 tournament in Romania had 29 players ...The chess960 tournament in Romania had 29 players competing in 7 rounds. Very spirited fights, and well received premiere. Value showed itself, the one IM participating won it.Vasile Andreicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10220168923304531209noreply@blogger.com